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    general music question
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    (November 28 2011 2:10 AM)

    There is probably a very obvious answer to this to those who know more about music than I do, but I have found myself wondering (again), why is it that people all had their own tape recorders of various quality and could record their own music, letters to friends, last will and testament, whatever, but you can't do that with CDs?   At least to the best of my knowledge, the average person can't.

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S. Brandon's picture
on November 28, 2011

There is probably a very obvious answer to this to those who know more about music than I do, but I have found myself wondering (again), why is it that people all had their own tape recorders of various quality and could record their own music, letters to friends, last will and testament, whatever, but you can't do that with CDs?   At least to the best of my knowledge, the average person can't.

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S. Brandon's picture

No problem, Michelle, I'm often not as articulate as I'd like to be, and I was having a little trouble phrasing the question. Part of it was as simple as, "we could record ourselves on tape recorders, nothing to it, at home. Why not with CDs?" I know there are all kinds of things about the technology of music/recording I don't understand, so that part I had been wondering about for a while. I think I may have my mother on audio cassette tape somewhere also, which of course would be another thing I would want on something more durable that a cassette tape (although who knows what the next jump will be). And your answers did provide information!

Michelle Z.'s picture

Yes, you can do that. I was trying to go at this from a performance aspect...which I now know, is not what you were asking about. I think I've completely misunderstood your question entirely, Ess. :) Sorry! Feel Free to ignore my ramblings...lol. :)

S. Brandon's picture

My parents at one time took a videotape (VHS) my brother made for their 50th anniversary (so, all personal information, no copyright questions) to a "professional" place to have it put on CD, and I didn't think they did a very good job at all. Not sure how much it cost them, but I thought these days, professionals can and would "clean up" things like that. (Come to think of it, they just celebrated 63 years together, so I guess that was more than a couple of years ago.) But still....

Michelle, the way you're looking at it, while I wasn't thinking of it at the time would be, if I already bought someone's music on vinyl AND on cassette, shouldn't I be allowed (by spirit of the law, if not letter), to transfer that to CD? Don't worry, not attempting -- barely following this conversation. ;-)

Sara, I think I'll send you a note to ask more (or such will be my intent, until I realize that I came back here to pay bill and call the doctor's office and the prescription place....

Michelle Z.'s picture

Yes, Ess, you can record/re-record the tape you found of the interview, as it is already your property. I was thinking you were wondering about recording someone else's (not yours...or your daughter's) music. That's where you have to be careful, but I guess that's why copying and recording...are two different things. :)

It might be easier to keep the original interview in tact, if you just transferred it onto a blank CD, versus trying to recreate it. Depends on what your Dad wants to do. :) Good Luck!

GML's picture

I know there are also companies that will take your tapes/recordings and put them on cd's for you, Ess. And you don't have to go out and buy all kinds of equipment! I'm not sure, but I think it is done at a reasonable cost! Being technologially challanged, myself, I pretty much figured what it was you were asking. It is funny that aspect wasn't taken into account when these tech. nerds came up with this stuff!

waterfallprincess's picture

The short answer is "yes" to everything; yes you can convert your tapes to digital, yes you can have him redo the interview directly to a digital file, and yes you can legally record your own stories/poems. But it's all stuff that you would have to learn how to do, and possibly need to buy equipment to do.

In the meantime, does your camera do video? If he's comfortable being on camera, you could redo the interview on video. And you could also record yourself, either in front of the camera or not, whatever's comfortable. Those are also digital files that are saveable/burnable to CD/DVD.

S. Brandon's picture

Okay, thanks, that helped some. And I was referring to legit uses -- at least I think so. As in when we dinosaurs could record our vinyl to cassettes to listen to in our cars, but not to pass around to friends (no one EVER did that), much less sell them.

Part of what got me thinking about this doesn't involve copyright issues at all. I came across a good old tape recorder in a closet the other day, and having no idea what was in it, pushed "play." It turned out to be an interview our daughter had done with my father because he was a WWII veteran, as a school project -- possibly as long ago as middle school, and she is about to graduate from college.

Sara, from what you were saying, would it be possible to either re-record from what we have, or try to get my dad to do the interview again so that we could keep it on something that would last longer? This may be a whole lot simpler than it sounds, but then again, my dad (while an avid and extremely articulate blogger at the age of 86), has a fair amount of new-technology-of-any-kind anxiety.

Now, Michelle, according to what you're saying, I could theoretically do this with my own copyrighted property -- we'll say, um -- poetry or stories, as I no one would want to hear my singing recorded. ;-) Does that make sense to all of you who tried to help? And thanks!

waterfallprincess's picture

S, you would sing into the microphone and record it to the hard drive (using a USB mic and a program like Garage Band or Audacity). Then you have a file. The file can be burned to a CD. As far as I know, you can't sing into the microphone and burn it to the CD as you go like you would with a tape recorder, no.

Michelle Z.'s picture

You can practice, or rehearse with copies, but have to have the original work for the performance, especially if it's being recorded!! :)

Michelle Z.'s picture

Hopefully this will help, if I understand what you are asking correctly, Ess. If people record their own music, that they have written...or something similar, it's because once it's published and/or professionally written down, they own the rights to that work. Legally, people are unable to do the same thing with music from CD's or sheet music because they do not own the rights. It's like, you can't photocopy a piece of sheet music with out getting the written consent of the artist, composer, or family of *said* person. Now, there are exceptions for works older than (I think...) 100 years, where neither the artist, composer, or any living relative (or person left legally responsible) is alive to claim ownership...i.e. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, etc. but even then, you have to be careful. It's the same idea as plagerism in writing... :) As a performer, you...if at all possible, have to either order the original work of the piece you are performing, or choose another one if it's not available. You can also *commission* a work from an artist...have them write/sing a piece for you specifically, or a specific event, but that's a whole new set of rules...lol.

Helping? :)

Amanda_5's picture

I don't see why not. I haven't done it but anything is possible with techy stuff now.

S. Brandon's picture

Is it possible to sing or talk into a mic at home and record it onto a CD?

AngieTheCanuck's picture

I'd answer your question, Ess, but I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.